House Committee on Ways and Means
Subcommittee on Social Security




Ticket to Work and Work Incentives Improvement Act
Public Hearing
September 26, 2002


Testimony Submitted for the Record by
Carl Suter, Executive Director
Council of State Administrators of Vocational Rehabilitation



Chairman Shaw, Ranking Member Matsui, and Members of the Subcommittee, I am Carl Suter, the Executive Director of the Council of State Administrators of Vocational Rehabilitation, known as the CSAVR.

The CSAVR is composed of the chief administrators of the public rehabilitation agencies serving persons with physical and mental disabilities in the States, District of Columbia, and the Territories. These agencies constitute the state partners in the State-Federal program of rehabilitation services provided under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended. The State Agencies supervise the rehabilitation of more than 1.2 million eligible individuals with disabilities annually. Of those eligible individuals served each year, by the State Agencies, more than 233,000 are placed in competitive employment.

On behalf of the CSAVR, I submit this written testimony in response to the September 26, 2002, oral and written testimony provided by the National Association of Protection & Advocacy Systems (NAPAS) before the Subcommittee on Social Security of the House Committee on Ways and Means.

My response is focused on the section of NAPAS’ testimony that addresses the State Vocational Rehabilitation Agencies’ (VR) implementation of the Ticket to Work. I respectfully request that this testimony be entered in its entirety into the September 26, 2002, permanent hearing record of the Subcommittee.

First, I would like to provide some background information on the unique role that the Public VR Program plays in the Ticket to Work Program. The Ticket to Work and Work Incentives Improvement Act of 1999 (TWWIIA) was designed to increase employment opportunities for beneficiaries who receive cash benefits under the Social Security Disability (SSDI) and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) programs to encourage them to enter or re-enter the workforce. According to the U.S. General Accounting Office, less than one percent of these individuals leave the SSDI and SSI rolls each year as a result of paid employment. While State VR Agencies serve thousands of beneficiaries with disabilities each year, a majority will choose not to seek assistance from VR for fear of losing needed health care coverage, which has been the pervasive and persistent problem for SSI and SSDI beneficiaries not entering or returning to work.

Prior to the Ticket, the Social Security Administration (SSA) would reimburse VR for client services and administrative costs when VR was successful in placing individuals on SSDI and SSI in employment that is sustained over a nine-month period with earnings equal to substantial gainful activity (SGA). I am pleased to report that for FFY ending 9-30-2002, the amount of reimbursement from SSA to the State VR Agencies was $131,014,755. This was the largest amount ever received, and an increase of $27,000,000 over FFY 2001. This record reimbursement demonstrates the State Vocational Rehabilitation Agencies’ commitment to serving individuals who are SSDI and SSI recipients and substantiates the results.

The Ticket to Work Program expands SSA’s options for providing compensation to State VR agencies, and for the first time, permits SSA to compensate private providers, when the provision of services and supports results in an individual working and earning SGA. Private providers can apply to SSA for approval to serve beneficiaries with tickets and receive compensation, either through an outcome payment or milestone and outcome payments combined, when a beneficiary’s earnings from work result in the discontinuation of cash benefits. Approved providers are referred to as Employment Networks (ENs).

Since VR is the only program that will be automatically approved to provide services to beneficiaries under the Ticket Program, the impact on the Public VR Program is likely to be dramatic. Over the next two years, tickets will be mailed to eligible beneficiaries along with information on how to use the ticket to obtain training and employment services. Many beneficiaries will call local VR agencies to find out more about the Ticket Program. With the complementary work incentives provisions in TWWIIA, it is expected that larger numbers of beneficiaries will be willing to attempt work than in the past.

State VR Agencies were extremely disheartened by the manner in which they were portrayed by the oral and written testimony presented by NAPAS on September 26, 2002, in implementing the Ticket to Work Program. The State VR Agencies in the first 13 states to implement the Ticket had to move forward in planning for Ticket implementation before issuance of the final regulations governing the Program. In the case of the Ticket to Work Program, many difficult policy decisions were left up to the Social Security Administration (SSA) to interpret through regulation. The final regulations were published in the Federal Register in December 2001.

Part of SSA's interpretation of the Ticket Program is that State VR Agencies must participate in the Ticket to Work Program to receive any type of payment for successfully serving a beneficiary with a disability who has a ticket. There are many policy questions inherent in VR’s participation in the Ticket Program. The CSAVR has been in discussions with SSA over a number of policy issues since tickets were first mailed in February 2002. TWWIIA is clear, however, that State VR Agencies must still operate in compliance with the requirements of Title I of the Rehabilitation Act and its governing regulations. This means that the interface between the requirements in Title I of TWWIIA and Title I of the Rehabilitation Act must be clarified and addressed through policy guidance.

In August 2002, SSA issued a new chapter to the procedures manual that State VR Agencies must use to secure compensation from SSA for successfully serving beneficiaries with disabilities. The SSA chapter specifically addresses what State VR Agencies must do to participate in the Ticket to Work Program, establishing both policies and procedures for VR’s participation. For example, the chapter establishes a policy whereby a beneficiary who approaches VR for services after receiving a ticket, and who, through informed choice, decides to sign an Individualized Plan for Employment (IPE) with VR, has, for SSA's purposes, assigned their ticket to VR. This policy interpretation has led some advocates to believe that VR Agencies are “forcing” beneficiaries to assign their tickets to VR, when in fact; VR is merely following SSA’s procedures.

State VR agencies, like all stakeholders involved with the Ticket implementation, have acknowledged that implementing the Program is a work in progress. To date, approximately 80 percent of the beneficiaries who have decided to participate in the Program have assigned their tickets to State VR Agencies. Since the structure of the Ticket Program does not provide any “upfront” funding to serve beneficiaries, EN’s who want to participate in the program will have to absorb considerable costs, pending payment from SSA, after the beneficiaries they serve obtain and maintain employment at SGA. In some states, the State VR Agency is partnering with other providers to form a coalition which functions as a single EN. In other States, the State VR Agency will be operating independently and competitively with other ENs.

Some State VR Agencies acknowledged that early on, missteps might have occurred in information communicated to VR customers. These missteps, however, were remedied as quickly as possible, upon receipt and clarification of information from the SSA.

That said, State Agencies, have not now nor ever have been “raiding” the Ticket program as alleged by NAPAS in their written testimony. Relatedly, the State Agencies have not and do not pressure existing clients into assigning their tickets to VR.

Indeed, some State VR Agencies have reported that EN’s are referring individuals to VR that they are choosing not to serve. These are predominantly individuals with the most significant disabilities and high support needs, who are and will be more costly to serve and individuals who need services that are not available through the EN.

It is difficult to comprehend how NAPAS has determined that VR Agencies are “raiding,” the ticket program, when it is the Public VR agencies who serve eligible individuals with the most significant disabilities, among others, unlike all of the other Employment Networks who can refuse to serve any individual with disabilities who may seek services and supports from them. In some States, State VR Agencies have entered into Memoranda of Understanding with other EN’s, which define how they will share in the costs of services for mutual clients and share in the reimbursement from SSA.

NAPAS stated in their testimony that State VR Agencies who are operating under an Order of Selection (OOS) are taking tickets from beneficiaries and placing them on waiting lists, if they do not meet the States’ OOS criteria to receive services. SSDI and SSI recipients who want to work are presumptively eligible for VR services, and, in most cases, are also individuals with the most significant disabilities. These individuals are among the first to be served under any States OOS, second only to serving existing VR clients and providing diagnostic services to new clients.

NAPAS implied in their testimony that State VR Agencies adopt an OOS at will. You should be aware that implementing an OOS is not an option at the discretion of the State Agency, but a requirement under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973, as amended, if VR Agencies have insufficient resources or staff to serve all eligible individuals who seek services from VR.

On more than one occasion, staff from the CSAVR have invited NAPAS staff to work with us on identifying State Agencies that they have reason to believe may not be serving Ticket customers appropriately. We have assumed, and will continue to assume, a leadership role in working with these Agencies to identify—not by innuendo as NAPAS did during the hearing—but by actually identifying the alleged instance(s) of non-compliance and working in concert with one another to correct a misinterpretation or problem.

Anecdotal accusations and criticisms cannot—and should not—be tolerated by anyone, including the Congress. Individuals who have inflated the size and scope of anecdotal incidences and unsubstantiated charges should be held accountable for making them.

In this regard, the CSAVR has requested from NAPAS that we be made privy to any and all information that suggests or implies that VR Agencies are not in compliance with the law in their implementation of the Ticket to Work.

Notwithstanding these unsubstantiated charges, the CSAVR plans to continue to work with State VR agencies and other stakeholders to remedy any alleged missteps or misinformation that may, or may not, be occurring at the VR Agencies and elsewhere.

Like hundreds of thousands of others, we are very proud of the Public VR Program, a proven, evidence-based service delivery system that is indisputably the most successful employment program in the history of the workforce.

Perhaps that is the reason so many individuals with disabilities continue to choose overwhelmingly the Public VR Program for the services and supports they need to enter the world of work.

Thank you for the opportunity to share our concerns with you on the testimony presented at the September 26 hearing regarding State Vocational Rehabilitation Agencies’ implementation of the Ticket to Work program.

We look forward to working with you in ensuring that beneficiaries with disabilities– including those with significant disabilities – are served and served well by all employment networks.

In closing, we again acknowledge that there are isolated incidences where misinformation may have occurred; however, these do not translate to the overwhelming negative criticism of State VR Agencies’ implementation of the Ticket to Work for thousands of beneficiaries with disabilities.


 

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